Why Men Don’t Marry

weddingringA good male friend emailed the following article to me. He informed me that he engaged in some heated debate over it, mostly from emotional baggage carrying females.  I, in turn, shared it with a female friend who, like me, didn’t get bent out of shape but rather agreed and acknowledged the author made some very good points.

I am posting the article here for discussion purposes. Feel free to voice your opinions.

I think there is a lot of disenfranchisement out there i found this on that “Men going there own way” website, it’s long but i think it conveys how some men feel today;

“The non-lawyer half of the InstaCouple says this:

“Nowadays, for many men, the negatives of marriage for men often outweigh the positives. Therefore, they engage in it less often. Not because they are bad, not because they are perpetual adolescents, but because they have weighed the pros and cons of marriage in a rational manner and found the institution to be lacking for them.”

I think women don’t understand how clinical men can be when it comes to analyzing a relationship. (Note: just because we don’t talk about our relationship with you, doesn’t mean we don’t analyze it.)

Here’s how I explain it. I think that men keep a running ledger going in their subconscious—all the good/great things about their relationship on the one side, and all the bad/terrible things on the other. At some point or another, if the perceived negatives outweigh the positives, the man will quit the relationship—I mean, just bail out of the whole thing—and usually with a swiftness and finality which confounds women.

Because we’re guys, we don’t talk about this much—even, or especially with other men, and hardly ever with women. But it’s a plain fact.

Now, because we’re guys, certain things have a disproportionate effect on both the good and bad things: on the good side, sex, food and shared interests being probably the best examples; on the bad,infidelity, constant nagging and invasion of privacy constitute the negative. The degree of each, good or bad, will vary among individual men, of course. Some men will put up with almost anything if the sex is of the “bed on fire” variety, for instance, while others will walk out of a relationship for something as trifling as compulsory weekly visits to Mom (hers).

Frankly, it doesn’t matter what these things are. What’s important is that they are each weighed, and applied to the ledger. And when the negatives consistently outweigh the positives, the man will say (to himself), “You know what? This isn’t worth the hassle. The hell with it.”

And once that decision is made, the relationship is over. Now, it may take a long time for all that to happen. Men are not accounting machines, and this is not a daily, or even a regular process. But it takes place in every man, sooner or later, when the negatives get too much to live with.

What’s interesting about all this is that as men grow older, the process becomes a lot quicker—mostly, it should be said, because younger men can put up with almost anything if they’re getting laid. As men get older and sex becomes less important, however, the “bullshit” factor and the tolerance thereof become more important.

I am not interested, incidentally, in hearing the female side of this. The topic is “why men are putting off getting married”. Here’s why.

All the great advantages of the women’s liberation movement have created an environment which, frankly, does not leave men with much. We can’t flirt with women at school, college or at the office anymore, because one man’s “flirting” has become another woman’s “sexual harassment” and the punishments for such transgressions are not only severe, they’re permanent—crippling a man’s career and prospects thereof.

When a woman can get pregnant outside wedlock, and still hound a man forever for child support (with the enthusiastic support of the State), is it any wonder that men, even though ruled by their sex drive, might actually step back a little and think with their heads? And once married, if a divorce becomes a later reality, he stands a real risk of losing access to his kids forever, because if Milady is feeling vengeful—and most do, in a divorce—the merest suggestion of “endangerment” or “violence”, and he is completely screwed, forever, even if the allegation is a complete falsehood.

I am not denying, by the way, that men have brought a lot of this on themselves. But remember, men are more clinical about relationships than women are. It is an absolutely certainty that men read all the news about some guy losing his right to own a gun just because a spiteful ex-wife filed a nonsensical claim of “abuse”, or guys getting ruined because of an intemperate offhand comment at the office, or even, good grief, getting hit up for child support after having been an anonymous sperm donor—and ask: ”Looks like the rules are all in her favor. Remind me: what’s in this ‘marriage’ thing for me , again?”

And the fact that women have become more sexually liberated doesn’t help matters. The old saw is true: why would a man go to the trouble of buying, stabling and feeding a cow, when milk’s available at the supermarket?

Remember: the early post-adolescent years are the time in men’s lives when they are most ruled by their sex drive. If the drive can be constantly sated by willing women, can anyone be surprised that when the sex drive starts to fade in importance, men look at all the other parts of a relationship, and find that the game just isn’t worth the hassle?

At ages 19 to about 27, men are at their most vulnerable for marriage, because the nice thing about married sex is not that it’s necessarily great, but that it’s pretty much always available, without too much work involved.

But if during those early years women don’t get their hooks into a man soon enough, the job becomes progressively harder as the man ages. So if women spend those early adult years building themselves a career and “fulfilling themselves” at the expense of getting married, they will find that when they do finally want to settle down and get married, men are no longer as welcoming as they were before.

And the foundations of all that were put down when women tried to stop men from being like men. Even with sex involved, men will always apply “The Ledger” to a relationship. Without sex, men are, quite simply, unwilling to put up with all the shit that a woman brings to the party. And when men feel that the dice are constantly loaded against them, they’ll simply refuse to play the game, at all.

None of this, incidentally, applies to the lucky men and women who found their soulmates—but I have to tell you, life isn’t much like the deliriously-happy couples on eHarmony.com. For every blissful couple in the ads, there are literally millions for whom a relationship is not a joy, but a wearisome chore.

What feminism hath wrought is simple: if men are to treat women as equals, then they will treat them like men—or at best, they will not treat them like women.

One more time: I’m not interested in hearing The Other Side Of The Story from women. We’ve heard little else for the past thirty years. The question was: why are men getting married later, if at all? This post is the answer, and women should not be shocked by its conclusions.

The saddest part of this is that all things being equal, most men actually enjoy being married, and look forward to it. It’s nice to have someone to come home to, someone with whom you can just be yourself, and someone to share the wonderful joys of having kids. And don’t kid yourselves, the sex is great. A buddy of mine, married to his childhood sweetheart for over twenty years, put it to me this way:

“A lot of the time, the sex [between longtime marrieds] is fine, or just so-so. But every once in a while, it’s fantastic, tremendous, brilliant, and better than you could ever ever get from a stranger.”

The men who are resisting being married are cutting themselves off  from all this—and women should ask themselves why this is the case, without  resorting to the “men are just refusing to grow up” bullshit.

They’re not refusing to grow up: this is the reaction to the constant belittlement and the infantilizing treatment they’ve been exposed to all their lives. “

So….what say you?

~ by chocl8t on May 12, 2009.

17 Responses to “Why Men Don’t Marry”

  1. I have to say that the brother has thought things out very well. Although my sex drive hasn’t diminished over the years, as was stated regarding the process, as an older, wiser man I do tend to make decisions about relationships a lot more quickly than I did when I was younger. The reason for that is that having gone through the bullsh*t before, I’m not willing to have my happiness compromised for the sake of being with someone.

    I applaud the brother and am quite relieved to hear our side for a change instead of what has been perceived from a woman’s point of view. Also, as stated in the post, although I have been married twice, I still believe that I will take that step once more for the right relationship. I enjoyed my married life, even though it didn’t fare well.

    Kudos again to the good brother. Peace.

  2. I loved this excerpt! This brothe ris pretty much on point!

  3. Hello there!

    I think we have to make a distinction in identifying WHICH groups of men have the lowest rates of marriage in this country… in the U.S. black men have the lowest rates of marriage in this country.

    Many surveys of White men reveal that those who were raised in the middle class view marriage as mandatory in adulthood.

    In African countries, marriage is also viewed as mandatory.

    Black women who are interested in marriage need to pay CLOSE ATTENTION to the groups of men in this country who value and who have high rates of seeking marriage. This means that they have to be willing to seek their marriage options OUTSIDE of all black constructs.

    • I hear you but the problem with that idea is that double standard that black men can be with whoever they so please. Black women on the otherhand are considered sell outs if they seek companionship from a brother of another color.

  4. In response to the article…hmm…part true and majority BS. He presents a good argument but the real as far as I can see is that it is just far to easy for men to get what they want without a wedding ring. I personally know of a guy that had 4 women dangling. One fiance’, one live in lover, a hit it from time to time chick and then started dating yet one more chick before the live in lover caught on and blew his game up to all parties concerned.

    Its just easier to jump from bed to bed and woman to woman to get what they want and need from women.

  5. I think the post was pretty accurate but it missed the biggest reason men don’t want to get married. Trust. People used to think that they could trust other people. They would trust them to be monogamous, dependable, and caring. While that may have always been an illusion, it was an illusion that most people believed. Trust is something that very few people can afford to do today and it is especially dangerous to really trust someone in a relationship. People aren’t as honorable or as they used to be or at least they aren’t held accountable in anyway by acting dishonorably. What I don’t understand is why women still want to get married as much as they do.

    Anyway, stay with a guy long enough and 99% of the time he will marry you even if he isn’t really enthusiastic about the idea. If he’s the other 1% then what’s the difference as long as you don’t break up?

  6. I have to agree with many points in this post, one that sticks out is some women who have not let men be men.

    I know quite a few women who take the independent role to the hilt which leaves little room for the man to feel like he is needed in the relationship. If you keep saying, “I can be bad all by myself,” you just may end up that way.

    And to David’s point, I agree that people feel less trusting as they did back in the day, but I don’t believe it’s because the significant others are less honorable, I think previous generations have been that way throughout the years, but our generation is more open with their promiscuous ways and the women of today realize they have options. We know we don’t have to stay at home waiting for someone to support the household, we’ll just do it. Men realize most women of today are not going to grin and bear it if they are out having children with the chick across town, there would be a knock on the door.

    I think men and women look at marriage as a stranglehold because deep down they probably know they are not going to change their ways after the vows.

    PS- I love the photo, very creative.

  7. I’ve held off commenting because I really wanted to hear other’s opinions. Interesting so far. Maybe I’ll chime in soon. ;)

  8. besause the comparticipation double life is very dififault, athawhise the women is not that was. is independente person and that make a man worry.

  9. I think this question is to dificault respond. But a can say the man don´t marry besause the comparticipation double life is very dififault, athawhise the women is not that was. is independente person and that make a man worry.

  10. Hey Ms. Choc! Just checking in since I have not been through in a while! Hope all is well with you!

  11. women should not be in a rush to get married!!! women should realize that they are whole and fine by themselves for a while-get to know you first, then you’ll kow who you are what your values are and what is really important to you. just like you tell children-enjoy your childhood while u can cuz it goes by so quickly, well so do your twenties!! a wise old lady once told me, “save your twenties for yourself!!” also, women need to remember that they are queens and act accordingly and maybe their frogs will turn into princes! and finally, the bible says not to be unevenly yolked, that means ,if you truly are my prince/king, then i shouldn’t have to tell you the do’s and dont’s they should be your rules too!

  12. Well said Mikki.

  13. I think the brother made some valueable points. Woman please don’t feel you have to always respond. Sometime just listening and reflecting is good enough. The Black woman may choose to date and marry outside of her race if she wants but understand that that choice is a direct link to not being able to find happiness with a black man, or whatever you perceive to be happyness. Just note that your mate, outside of your race is second choice not true love as you would have him to believe.

    Marraige is this country have nothing to do with vows, love or trust. If that was so there wouldn’t be divorce court and the divorce rate would not be over 50%. Black Women should not place everything on a marriage. Technically if you are with a guy for such and such period you are his wife and he is your husband. If your not satisfied with that then you need to evaluate your self and find out why your placing so much on a ring and a wedding. But I can help you out. It’s because of what socieity deems right. Remember we are visitors to this land. We didn’t come here of our own violiaton nor did we come here on the may flower. Stop following the ways of white people and what they deem acceptable.

  14. Why would any man marry a woman when he already gets everything f(sex, cooking, cleaning, kids, etc.) from her WITHOUT making her his wife first? It’s the weak desperation and foolishness of black women that has caused black men to say no to marriage.

    Women open their legs to men who are not their husbands so they end up with a high rate of children born out of wedlock and no marriage. When people obeyed God’s word and waited to have sex AFTER they married the divorce rate was low, the out-of-wedlock birth rate was low and the marriage rate was high. See where sin will get a race?

    If more women remained celibate more men would get married. They would have to to get what they want (sex) I know this because if you research our history back in the “good old days” when a man had to marry a woman to have sex with her guess what the men did? THEY GOT MARRIED! Sex before marriage is wrong because that’s not God’s will and plan for people.

    • Don’t fool yourself…this issue IS NOT exclusive to Black men and women. Whites and Latinos deal with the same within their cultures/race. By and large the issue is rooted in lax social mores in general and not a specific race or ethnicity. IMO.

      And what a piss poor reason to marry…for sex? Really? The only reason men married was to have sex? Seems plausible but were they happy? Both the man and woman? I doubt it. Was he faithful within that marriage? I doubt it.

      Yeah, the “good old days” weren’t all that GOOD.

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